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All Wrong

They are doing it, and don’t even realize it!

Bloggers, news reports, church denominations, individuals, and worse is the pastor’s proclamation of the ‘Church’ losing numbers that has assumed it to be true.

What is it? It is the fact that when they,or whomever talk about the ‘Church’ losing people, young or old. They are insinuating that to be the ‘Church’ you have to be ‘in’ the ‘church’ building to be counted as one of the ‘Church’. (When I use the church designation, I will us the small ‘c’ as the local church, and the large ‘C’ as the Church as a whole. This always needs to be distinguished in any article or discussion.)

As a point of reference, when talking to people about “church” always start with the Corporate Church,(this is why I like using the word ‘body’) using the corporate body as the example dictates what the local body is in definition. Not the other way around.

The mentality of our understanding of the ‘Church’ by being in ‘church’ and using our influence of what we think and do to be the church is absurd.This is not the tail wagging the dog thing!

We sometimes think that because a few things are working, or you are doing your part in the church that it is the way it is supposed to be, but this is so far from the truth that it doesn’t make sense. It is like you can’t see the forrest because of the trees!

What needs to be discussed first is the actually the meaning of the word “church”. What has happened over the centuries we have lost the meaning of God’s People. We have boxed the meaning of it, literally!! Get it! LOL God’s people have never been designed to be in one location on a certain day of the week. Unless you mean Adam and Eve as the first ‘church’. Worship was not intended to be what it is today by along shot, it was ‘God and his creation communing together in the world that He created’. How this is changed!!

If this sounds familiar, it is because this is the Garden  of Eden story and also(Good News) this is what is in the end also. Revelation 21-22! Humanity has hijacked God’s world and along with the ‘christians’ have gone their own way to further their own destruction. But it is the resurrection of Jesus that has begun the ‘New Creation’ of God’s world and His government that we will again commune with Him, all of us.

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I hate to do it.

I hate to do it, but I feel I must.

I have to steal a saying in our society that is very prevalent in the news,heck it is the news. What is worse, is that I must mix it with religion.

Yes, IS there FAKE NEWS IN CHURCH?

Yes I said it.

I want to come at this from two angles, there should’t be one angle,let alone two, which is sad.

The first one is ‘Do Pastors or clergy make up things,or points in their sermons to prove a point? What!? How could this be? Why, would a clergy do this? About what would he use ‘fake news’ to make a point?

Let’s go to the second angle, How would the ‘church’ know? This is so hard to tell which one of these is the worst, but I lean towards the second. (Maybe this is the reason ‘we’, the ‘church’ are where we are at now)

Does anyone every study the bible, let alone read it anymore? My observations have led me down the path that says  reading is down, and studying is way down. Now, you should notice that if you correct the second, it will fix the first in time.

God’s people must know him in an intimate way as to not see when something is said or done that is not of God. That is our DNA to be of God and his word.

God’s people for to long have just taking their teaspoon of the ‘message’ on sunday morning and assumed it would get them bye, let alone they thought it might be wrong. God is holding us accountable to know his word and what it means. I challenge you today to know God’s word and hold it close to your heart to know that it is good, and not Fake News.

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church=little c -the building

what would we do if there was no building to go to? on sunday, or any day? How would we act? Would we be lost? would we just go to another building?

Think about it. What would you do? We do? Could you function without going somewhere on a particular day? See your friends? Sing a song or two? Listen to ‘one’ person talk?

Just wondering……………………………………………………. maybe you  should too!

 

 

*Capital C = ‘The Church’,Body, Believers

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The Church is…………………..

Christians, We have a problem!

Our identity is in disarray? And it’s our fault.

The looseness of our use of the word “church”and our actions,rituals, has and is not defining who we are as Christians. I see to some extent that maybe we have put the cart before the horse. We as christians have assumed that we are exemplifying the attributes of a christ like life, when in fact we are just a very weak example of a concept of a christ like ideal.

First, the realization of what God’s intention of his creations and their purpose from God’s chosen people,the jews, and then to spread the love for all to be included in his purpose. It is where we need to see the real meaning of what God was telling  and showing the children of Israel  that it was all about Him, in everything for everyone. This understanding  for the children was the practice of the details to comply with God’s identity. It was their manual to be “God’s people”, and their was no other way to this identity. This has in some respects bled thru in the christian life.

God gave them the law and it was written in stone!, so it could not and would not change,no additions or subtractions.This is the method that God speaks for his intentions for his people.

Put ourselves in the mindset of a jewish sect in the various kingdoms that they were a subset in that will bring us to the understanding  of their mindset of what God was going to free them from tyrant kingdoms that kept them in slavery. It was to become a flesh issue in their lives, but not an eternal one.

Secondly, with the inclusion of gentiles it was the dissolving of everything that jewish life was all about as to the rituals that ‘God’s people were and what they were. It couldn’t  include the gentiles, unless they succumbed to the rituals of the jews. This is what the issue with Paul and Peter was in the book of Acts. This united group was just not kosher with the jewish elite. It just couldn’t work in so many ways. This pronouncement that the old way of knowing of who God’s select people were, was not by the written and systematic ways of his people, but by who they were in God, and later to be thru Jesus,the messiah.

It is this second realization that we need to see that, we too need to drop our rituals and ways of becoming ‘God’s people’ as did the jewish community had to realize with the addition of the gentiles in the purpose of God. We have become stuck in the ways of our thinking of ‘creating the kingdom’ that we have missed the fact that we are the kingdom because of our belief in Jesus and his messianic life that, He is the new king of the new kingdom that has given us a new life in not the world but of God’s Life!

Christians need to be the ‘light on the hill’ to be reckonized as ‘God’s people’. This will be who Chirst is. Nothing more,nothing less.

The definition of ‘the Church’ is ‘God’s people’. and nothing else.

God’s desire for Adam in the garden was not slavery, but life. Adam chose slavery, God rectified Adam to bring us to life in Christ, which he shows us in Revelation 21-22.

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Have we been looking at this the wrong way?

The bible is a very unique book that has withstood thousands of years of scrutiny,volumes of translations, attacks of authenticity,historical accuracy and many more attempts of blemishing of it’s Holy words.

This last year has kept up with the trend to attack it’s power and identity. Let me say something here that might sound sorta weird, This attacking of the bible for what it is and stands for has given many  the believers and nonbelievers something to openly discuss things in a very new and exciting way. And for what it is worth, there always comes out of these discussions,some new thoughts and what if scenarios that can boggle my mind and many others too. Personally, I love it.

I truly believe that the “real” church is outside the  walls of the church’s that we see at every corner. I believe that the people that are truly seeking God and His understandings are very creative and diligent in their search. This is why I believe that blogging,authors writing outside the box,theologians that are not afraid to go outside their structure of comfort and tell what they believe, that is really bringing about the corporate church.

For the ones that are stuck in an environment that is in “just keep on doing what your doing” brick and mortar  environment  I feel sorry for you. You are very sheltered, and non-thinking of but a minuscule piece of the eternal purpose of God. After all, God is concerned with the whole church, not  the pieces of it. This may sound harsh, but I believe it is the mistake that we “Christians” have made. God’s crescendo  that He talks about is the bride and  not billions of people to become His  people(church), but just his Church, and she has a name, “His Bride”. This is the corporate name of His church.

If we could somehow look at what the bible or God is showing us throughout the bible that he is not concerned with the little pieces of the pie, but the pie itself is the goal.

This brings me to the point of “are we looking at the references of the bible the wrong way” when it is mentioning the humanness of the story of Man and Woman?

We seem to take the stance that God is talking about us as humanity is to act and do as the two identities are portrayed. Think about this for a moment- If God knows that we are of a flawed nature, and that there is nothing we could do to change this nature, not even being good would correct it, then why would God give us instructions on how to do something to mask the flaw in our nature?

But what if we are being told and shown in this divine way that if we are “reborn” into Christ that we not of this “old nature” but of a “new nature” an Divine Nature that is of God and we(as the church) then will be a virgin bride for Him on that glorious day of the Wedding feast!!*

Look at the message of the bible,from beginning to end, what God is looking for and who and how is being shown us of God’s Eternal Purpose.

He wants a Bride.

* For a more in depth study of this train of thought of God’s Eternal Purpose, find the book at your bookstore of Frank Viola’s titled  “From Eternity to Here”. It is a great read and shows you the underlining message throughout the bible of what God is showing to His people. His Church. His Bride.

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Farmer Doug

The sower has an important job on a farm of agriculture.

You just can’t be a johnny appleseed of life.Tossing seeds wherever they may land,expecting every seed to come forth with fruit.

This is why the farmers introduced mechanical machinery to do the job that they didn’t want to do by hand. It was to place 1 seed a foot apart from the next seed and another foot away from the next, and so on.

This method is the opposite of some our thinking when we try to grow something in our garden, when we just dump some seeds into a whole and expect miracle plants as high as the house and come bearing multitudes of vegetables.(been there, done that)

But wait, have we actually done this in our thinking of our religion of christianity?

This may hard to see or even swallow as truth but think upon this and let it sink in or study it deeper.

If we are of Christ as his multiplication as seeds, are we not suffocating ourselves being throw into an environment of the “church”. When Christ has planted us evenly apart of each other, to be able to reproduce Him as the “grain of wheat”, He as the original grain was not beside another grain to compete for the richness of the earth to warm and to shelter the seed, or to just soak the nourishing water that seeped into the ground, or to hog all the heat that the sun shown down on the earth of our fertile land.

Our understanding of God’s multiplication of Him, is not depending on our being together as the seeds of God in a glob in the dirt, but as individual seeds being nurtured in God,of God,and for God, if we are to be of Him, we should just be at peace in our surroundings of our planting,soaking up the water and Sonshine of His being so that we will someday be that image of God.

I recommend that  we really seek the Lord in this matter and see that we as His called ones, seek Him only. The growth will naturally take place in God for us to be His Fruit!!

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Blogging

Blogging as it seems is sort of a new thing, but yet it isn’t.

Blogging is the visual way of saying what we feel or want to be heard.

Saying or wanting to be heard is real answer.

We have been trapped in our bodies in the area of religion on saying or wanting to be heard arena.

Blogging has unleashed this.

I am so thankful for the blogging world in the area of authors,theologians,and yes,normal people like you and me that have just opened up thru the blogging world to really say what was on their mind. The pink elephant in the room is staring at us as I speak. You know what and who it is but we are afraid to say it out loud,aren’t you.

Ok, I will say it for you, It’s religion, or more distinctly, the church!

You see, it’s the system. The way we have always done it,the bylaws, the denomination, the I don’t know any other way.

We have become so oblivious to searching the answer to the only question that we have ever heard.

Are you going to Heaven?

If this is what you have heard, you are not alone.

The story of the Bible is  sooooooooooooooooooooooooo much more to God than going to heaven, that we have failed to see the real issue.

God.

Blogging world has exploded on this arena of what the real issue is of the Bible and it’s real meaning. Everyone has chimed in to address questions about the bible and the eternal purpose of life. I have been both thrilled to read so many people ask and tell of their understanding of the bible as I know see the bible and the discussions of what the scriptures say to us. It is an exhilarating experience to say the least to read and hear how people are “seeing” God’s word in the true light that He meant it to be.

I challenge you to escape the confines of the one person every week to do this or that in your daily life and to actually search God. Whether it be thru the bible, thru theoligians( I highly recommend doing some of this with your studies,if need be I can give a list of some good ones),thru authors, and thru your daily prayer/reading of the bible.(this is praying for reading of the bible of the thoughts of God)It will change the way you read the bible.

God’s eternal purpose is nothing short of Amazing, I can honestly say that it revolutionary to your life.

I pray that we can see it, when we look into His eyes! Amen,and Amen

 

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