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Where are God’s people?

Can you see them? Can you hear them? Can you sense them?

Think about that for a little while.

Okay, what did you come away with? Are there any distinctions that Christ like people have? Can you tell anything from them? Can you spot them in a line up? Could you convict them of being of ‘God’s people’?

I would like to touch on just one of  many characteristics of anyone that is ‘Christlike’.

It is the ‘desire’ of oneself to be closer or to know of the one that you ‘worship’. Let me start with the definition of “Worship”. John 4.23 “But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.(Italics added) This is what is called the ‘pinnacle’ of total belief.

Now what is spirit and truth? For the purpose of this blog, I would like to skip to the second one- Truth. Let me just start with the most obvious one. John 14.6 (all texts are using NASB.) Jesus said to him,”I am the way,and the truth, and the life, no one comes to the father but through me.”

Now using this as our baseline for work,lets break this down even farther. John 14.6 is telling us that the three things are pointing to him. These three things are in essence ………Jesus. Three things- ‘the way’,’the truth’,’the life’. I would like again to break this down and concentrate on just but one and start there.  ‘The Truth’ what is it? What does it look like,who says it, what is it about, should I believe it.

Defining ‘Truth’ can be a tricky thing to answer, even for Pontius Pilate who talks with Jesus, he says in John 18.38 Pilate *said to Him, “What is truth?” And when he had said this, he went out again to the Jews and *said to them, “I find no guilt in Him. Pilate being a Roman governor of Judea, had no definition of what truth was.

With all the references to truth, It was the Messiah was questioning what the truth was to everyone. Jesus’s walking and talking with all that he came into contact with questioning “what was the truth”. The people knew,the local leaders knew, the religious people knew, even the world knew because of their Caesar.(Caesar was their truth, after all this is what they were worshiping)  Who was it, what was it?

. It is the capturing of the message that God,his people,their leaders, disciples, apostles, that Jesus was the Messiah to lead them from this world into God’s kingdom within the new creation.

But to the point of the discussion, I must point out that it is the lack of need of most christianity that they feel like there is no need to ‘know’ these things, to study the scriptures in a more deep and ‘seeing’ way. I have sensed that there is not much desire for this deep earnest desire to search the word to ‘find’ what the ‘truth’ really is.

*Get a few people together and just talk the scriptures, discuss the theology of God. Find only the ones that are just plain giddy to be studying God’s word to ‘see’ what it says on a every day basis. Those are the ones that are ‘in Christ’. “Where two or three are gathered together………I am there also.”

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Looking at ‘ourselves’ from the outside

As I have said before to many people, I listen,watch alot of different things coming from different perspectives, to see it from all the angles of my studies of the bible and religion. It is the sociological aspect that I have come to realize that I like to do, especially when I am out in a crowd , I listen to people in their lives and stories that they tell to have an impulse on what the world is saying. (My wife doesn’t tho, says that I am not listening to her! lol. probably right tho. Sorry!)

But it is with this intriguing wanting, that I can, and do learn things. So it has happened again to me when I stumbled upon a youtube video of a debate between catholics and protestants over the topic of ‘Sola Scriptura”.Sola Scriptura is the understanding that it is the written word of God is the only determining factor of knowing God. Youtube.com by the way is incredibly one of the ways that we can learn and expand our knowledge of religion,bible,God, and all things scripturally.

I use Youtube to access thousands of video and audio of various authors,speakers, ministers, and resources that I would not be able to access otherwise.

It is this debate over the topic of ‘Sola Scriptura’, which can be seen here at this link https://youtu.be/mHM7xVRdh5U it would be wise for christians to listen(no video) to this debate not just for the topic of discussion, but also from the bigger problematic  picture of both sides.

My observation of the debate is eye opening to all who are represented in this discussion. It is the ‘what people see and hear’ of what they see and hear to the ‘outsiders’ or the ‘world’, that we need to see what is really going on in the world with religion. My sort of snide but tongue in cheek comment to myself was “What if, you both are wrong?” lol

The discussion was and is very deep in biblical back story and to the historical importance of the old and new testaments, which as we know can be seen different ways.

But maybe, just maybe they ‘are’ both wrong. What if ‘they’ are discussing things that are important but not that important to what the ‘message’ is, as opposed to the ‘text’. The ‘message’ being Genesis 1-2, Revelation 21-22. The ‘Holy four chapters of God’s words, where there is ‘no’ hiccup in God’s Eternal Purpose.

Genesis- The beginning of God’s creation of his people(all), his land(world), and his kingdom(His Rule).

Revelation- The actual fulfillment of God’s Creation of people,land,and Kingdom.

 

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Eschatology

What is it?

Eschatology is the part of theology concerned with death, judgment, and the final destiny of the soul and of humankind.

What is your understanding of it, why do you believe it, how did you come to this understanding, and do you live it as accordingly to your belief?

This is a for research that I am conducting for a blog to come. Please help me out with as many as people responding to this. Thanks,Doug

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Christ and Hell

‘Christ the conqueror of Hell’ the descent into Hades from an Orthodox perspective. Written by Archbishop Hilarion Alfeyev.

My reading of this book was quite ironic in the timing of it, in that halfway thru it I had a conversation with a few people on the subject of Hell itself.  There was the usual banter back and forth  of just the concept of ‘hell’ and what it was in our understanding and the usage of words that are always associated with it. Hell, hades,underworld, Gehenna,Sheol, grave and many others are used. It was this that was apart of our discussion along with the Love of God and the lack of the love of God to be able to send people to ‘Hell”.

Discussions like this probably could go on for awhile with opinions and scripture usage all day, but it wasn’t until I read this book, that I had some more concrete evidence of what hell was ‘believed’ to be by the actual people of the times of history that God’s son ‘Jesus’ was sent into Hell to destroy,conquer and to put it to an end of ‘prison’ as they knew it. This is where we have to stay in context with scripture and of historical times of the old testament and the new testament to understand the meaning of God’s words and his intentions. Our using our ’21st Century’ thoughts and perceptions will just not do, nor will they matter in the deciphering the motive of God.

Christ the conqueror of Hell, uses all the people, texts, ‘fathers’,prayers, hymns, and poems of the time and even years after the actual event that quoted what their traditions of belief carried them thru their practices of life to actually know God and his son ‘Jesus’.

This use of these materials has shed a new and ironic twist on what ‘we’ now should ‘see’ in the relevance of God’s son going into ‘Hell’ to conquer it, to put the then ‘ruler’ of the day to rest, and to now God to be the ‘King’ of all for all.

I would have to put this book in my top 5 books that I have read in the last 10 years. Check out this book for more insight of what the people believed what hell was,what it meant for Christ to go down into hell,breaking the gates, freeing all, from its grip of darkness.

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and the Greatest of these is Love.

But now faith,hope,love abide these three; but the greatest of these is love. 1 Corinthians 13.13.

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How do you,Read?

For those that take reading the bible seriously, I mean in a more serious bible study of your own, in what lens do you read from? ( You won’t see this at church)

For most people that are serious in real bible study will come from usually come from either from their upbringing traditions, which is reading the scriptures from an all ready theology mindset, and when the word is read it will ‘fit’ their story.

This mindset has been in effect for quite awhile in the christian main stream, which will give it its own direction and outcome. I would unpack this scenario now but this is not the road for today.

Where as the road today is pointing to the road less traveled is the one of the critical Historic method of which the storyline is kept in context of history, and using the social, personal, and historical truth describe the origins of ancient texts in order to understand  ‘the world behind the text’.

This method ‘critical historical method’ is one that is being used more aggressively it seems the last thirty to forty years in the educational realm, which has brought about some new and different light to the scriptures. In my opinion it is the more truest form of extracting the ‘message’ of the scriptures. In the way of ‘theological methodology’ the scriptures are skewed because you are being biased in your reading and mindset. It is only because you are set in your ways of ‘seeing’ the bible or that it is thought to be the only way to read it, or it was the way that your church sees it.

It is a safe way to start from scratch with out any preconceived notions on anything and just take the text for what meant to the person,persons or people on a social understanding to stay within the context of the story. Go deeper into God’s people, who they were,why they were chosen, what were they to do? This will get you on a good path of God’s storyline for ‘His Chosen People’!!

 

 

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church=little c -the building

what would we do if there was no building to go to? on sunday, or any day? How would we act? Would we be lost? would we just go to another building?

Think about it. What would you do? We do? Could you function without going somewhere on a particular day? See your friends? Sing a song or two? Listen to ‘one’ person talk?

Just wondering……………………………………………………. maybe you  should too!

 

 

*Capital C = ‘The Church’,Body, Believers

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